he said that john kerry, the secretary of state, and the president himself are making it clear that our interests in the region are for the freedom of the ukrainian people. their right to self-determination. for the rights of russians, by the way, and russian speakers in the region dealt with peacefully. and for respect for international law. those are things that they plan to pursue. i also think that they know that the right thing to do here is that probably not get into a swearing match or proto military confrontation with vladimir putin. you don't corner the animal. and that's sort of the situation we're in here right now. and they're trying to be cool and to ratchet down the rhetoric because they think that putin has overplayed his hand, and that they think they've got a way to get back, get back at him. the problem that the president has is that the europeans don't do what the united states wants anymore. and putin supplies most of the gas to western europe. and that's a problem. >> well, senators mccain, graham, and rubio have said sanctions against russia wouldn't be enough sayi